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2005/04/18 01:46:37 CDT by mattsteg
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2005/04/18 02:26:46 CDT by Temporal
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Err. Hi?

2005/04/18 17:50:01 CDT by derch
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Err. Hi?

yes! I'm in!

Added at 2005/04/18 17:50:39 CDT
Added at 2005/04/18 18:09:28 CDT

and shit, i cant unquote!

2005/04/19 01:05:38 CDT by burn
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um temp.. how about an editing function for version 1.0.1? :p

2005/04/19 01:14:41 CDT by Temporal
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Gah! I already explained this. I could give everyone the ability to edit their own posts by changing two lines of code, but I intentionally decided not to.

2005/04/19 01:19:50 CDT by burn
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Gah! I already explained this. I could give everyone the ability to edit their own posts by changing two lines of code, but I intentionally decided not to.

oh I know but I just wanted to put my two cents in on the forum as well

2005/04/19 09:25:14 CDT by mattsteg
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Quote from Temporal:

Gah! I already explained this. I could give everyone the ability to edit their own posts by changing two lines of code, but I intentionally decided not to.

Just a comment - I think a time limit on editing or a editing lock only after another post is made in a thread would be a bit more functional than append-only.

2005/04/19 10:14:05 CDT by Temporal
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A time limit would be an acceptable compromise. Unfortunately it would be a lot harder to implement than it sounds. Having an "edit" button on posts which disappears after a certain amount of time would not work well with my caching system, which basically assumes that the database only changes on HTTP POSTs. Besides that, I could see users getting extremely frustrated when the timer runs out while they are in the middle of a lengthy edit, etc. Really, I'd rather just implement the diff-based edit history, but as mentioned that will take some effort.

And, just to clarify... There are a lot of things about this web app that I feel are sub-optimal, but I could spend forever improving it. At some point I just had to stop myself and move on. The edit issue is one thing that I feel is sub-optimal, but only slightly so, and all the possible solutions either lead to bigger problems or would take too long to implement.

Added at 2005/04/19 10:19:12 CDT

BTW, don't interpret this as me not appreciating the suggestion, because I do. Please do tell me about any ideas that you think would improve things... just note that I have other stuff on my plate now and probably won't go back to IoCM unless there is a serious problem to fix or a really good and fairly simple idea to implement.

2005/04/19 11:55:11 CDT by mattsteg
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Quote from Temporal:

Having an "edit" button on posts which disappears after a certain amount of time would not work well with my caching system, which basically assumes that the database only changes on HTTP POSTs. Besides that, I could see users getting extremely frustrated when the timer runs out while they are in the middle of a lengthy edit, etc. Really, I'd rather just implement the diff-based edit history, but as mentioned that will take some effort.

What about allowing edits only before responses? That would seem at least somewhat reasonable, and much more compatible with your caching system. I'm not trying to beat a dead horse or anything, just making sure you didn't miss that from my previous post. It's also be nice if the preview shown when you click reply showed more than just the last post for cases when someone may want to reference multiple posts while composing a reply. Obviously not a significant issue since you can manually write the code tags, or click reply, copy, and paste if you're supremely lazy, but it would be nice to be able to see a bit more history.

Added at 2005/04/19 11:57:45 CDT

On another note, I can't log in using links. I doubt this is especially attention-worthy.

Added at 2005/04/19 12:34:12 CDT

Tim's avatar overlaps his quote box. Also, where can I set an avatar if I so desire?

2005/04/19 20:27:01 CDT by Temporal
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Quote from mattsteg:

What about allowing edits only before responses?

Oh, right, I did manage to miss that. But, yeah, the problem with that then is that it still potentially allows data to be deleted or destroyed long after being posted if it just happens that no one else posted in the thread.

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On another note, I can't log in using links. I doubt this is especially attention-worthy.

The login thingy prefers Javascript, but should work without it. Not entirely sure why that wouldn't work... But, yeah, that's not a high priority. Maybe I'll look into it sometime.

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Tim's avatar overlaps his quote box.

Just an unfortunate fact of life with the CSS "float: right" property.

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Also, where can I set an avatar if I so desire?

Edit your profile. To get there, click on the "mattsteg" link on any of your posts or in the sidebar. (Hmm, maybe I should put an explicit "my profile" link in the sidebar to make that more obvious...)

2005/04/19 22:43:10 CDT by mattsteg
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Edit your profile. To get there, click on the "mattsteg" link on any of your posts or in the sidebar. (Hmm, maybe I should put an explicit "my profile" link in the sidebar to make that more obvious...)

Hmm, when I tried that before (multiple times) I didn't see the edit profile button. I can't imagine why that would happen, so I must have just missed the edit button the dozen times I looked for it. Where to go is plenty obvious, the button just hid from me.

2005/04/25 18:06:51 CDT by Eldragon

I for one, don't really care if the data changes in the first place. We are all friends here, and I am not aware of anyone going out of their way to change a post to make themselves look better.

2005/04/25 18:31:05 CDT by Temporal
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Right, right. I agree. But this software was and is mainly written for Fate of Io.

Added at 2005/04/25 18:36:19 CDT

(What I should really do is make it an option. But that would require more significant changes than I'm willing to make at this point.)

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